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Tuesday Night Live: Another big night for #preptalkscores

It's a busy night in boys basketball from the city to the Southern Tier. I'll be doing some traveling around doing some updates here and via Twitter.

Tweets to the hashtag #preptalkscores will automatically show up in the live blog. So if you are a game tonight and you're updating via Twitter, be sure to include that hashtag. I'll have periodic tweets updating the game at @KeithMcSheaBN, but most of my updating will come in the live blog.

Check out tonight's full schedule on our scoreboard page, and check back throughout the night for updated box scores and highlights.

See you out at the games, in the chat and on the tweeter. :-)

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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How The News voted: New World Order

Every week during the basketball season a panel of voters participates in The News' large and small school boys basketball polls.

And every week we let you know, like the title says ... how The News voted.

And talk about quite the week to catch up on, especially after what we called Earth-Shattering Friday. Whew!We have something of a New World Order now after St. Joe's topped Canisius, Timon beat Bishop Kearney and Kenmore West beat Niagara Falls. 

Here is a link to previous ballots: last week - Jan. 24 (when I said I thought Canisius would win at St. Joe's), Jan. 17 (MLK edition), Jan. 10 (back from the break), Dec. 20, Dec. 13 (the tipoff).

Here are this week's polls, and here's our ballot:

LARGE SCHOOLS

1. St. Joe's (15-2) [last ballot: 3] -- This week, both No. 1s were easy picks.

2. Canisius (10-7) [1] -- Double-whammy weekend: Crusaders lost at Rochester East on Saturday after loss at Joe's Friday. The season is a marathon, not a sprint, so it will be interesting to see how these guys respond. I think highly enough of them to keep them here above Jamestown. 

3. Jamestown (13-1) [4] -- Very eager to see them at Will North Friday night.

4. Bishop Timon-St. Jude (12-5) [5] -- Votes are filed before Monday night's games. This blog is finished after Monday night's games. Excellent game at St. Joe's Monday night. Liked what I saw from the team as an offense for most of the night. Kobis, who had a very good game finding teammates, I thought, had a way off night shooting. If he doesn't, Timon certainly could have won. They had chances. This season gets better and better. Timon at Canisius on Thursday.

5. McKinley (8-2) [6] -- That's right, I think these guys are a more soid pick over the next two.  

6. Niagara Falls (9-4) [2] -- Who's the better team between NF and KW? I say NF, which is why they're here atop of West. NF wins at KW in a blowout in Dec., then KW wins at NF Friday night. Can't make this stuff up. 

7. Kenmore West (10-2) [10] -- Best win in program history since??? 

8. Riverside (8-2) [7] -- Thank goodness the city is back playing so we can (try to) make sense out of these guys, and ...

9. Hutch-Tech (7-3) [8] -- ... these guys, especially compared with ... 

10. Williamsville East (12-2) [9] -- ... these guys, which certainly deserve to be a notch ahead of other suitors, almost all of them residents of the ECIC.

Poll stat note that I'm sure some of you noticed: Only 10 teams got votes in the large school poll this week. These 10. By 10 different voters. 

SMALL SCHOOLS

1. Olean (12-1) [1] -- Very interested in hearing the reports from Olean tonight.

This week's large school poll got a major shake up. Not so much here. My dusty ballot is the same as last week's. Maybe this is coming week is the one for small schools? (dun-dun-dunnnnnn imposing music). 

2. St. Mary's (13-5) [2] -- Outstanding win at Timon last Tuesday; this Tuesday at Walsh. Like I said, very interested in hearing the reports from Olean tonight.

3. OTC Middle College (7-3) [3] -- Very solid win over Seneca make for a very solid top three.

4. Archbishop Walsh (13-4) [4] -- Very interested in hearing the reports from ... you know. Have faith in the Eagles here over a tough pack of teams to pick from (like it has all season).

5. Tonawanda (12-0) [5] -- Warriors still undefeated. Here's where my tough part of the poll comes. These bottom six of the top 10 along with others.

6. Depew (8-4) [6] -- Would other small schools fare as well as they have in ECIC III? Hmmmm.

7. Wilson (10-2) [7] -- Still like what I saw from these guys at CSAT, not the greatest sample to compare to others. We'll see what happens on their tough trip into the Newfane's Blue Zone Thursday night.  

8. MST Seneca (9-2) [8] -- Nice win at Holland. That's something a top 10 small school does.

9. East (5-6) [9] -- Double-dribble: Thank goodness the city is back playing.

10. Silver Creek (11-1) [10] -- Very impressive win over a surging Portville team. All year I've considered these guys ahead of Dunkirk and many others. Another reason I'm very interested in hearing the reports from ...

Don't like what you're reading? The comment space is below.

---Keith McShea

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PrepTalkTV (Jan. 30): St. Joe's goes OT vs. Timon for another big win

PrepTalkTV made it back-to-back big games at St. Joe's, and the newly-crowned No. 1 large school Marauders made it back-to-back big wins. Check out PrepTalkTV's highlights, interviews, analysis and St. Joe's tribute to Bishop Timon-St. Jude coach Jim Palano: 

Our previous videos from the 2012 basketball season: St. Joe's beats No. 1 Canisius (Jan. 27), Six stops, including Tim Nobles' 500th win for the Pine Valley girls (Jan. 20), a big win for Williamsville East (our debut on Jan. 17).

Our weekly football episodes from the fall are available here, while you can watch additional videos at Prep Talk Live

More sports and seasons are documented in PrepTalkTV episodes are on our video page -- click "PrepTalkTV" there for the archive.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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PrepTalk Live & PrepTalkTV from another big one tonight: St. Joe's beats Timon in OT

Two of the biggest victories of this high school basketball season came Friday when St. Joe's beat then-No. 1 Canisius and Bishop Timon-St. Jude knocked off Section V power Bishop Kearney.

At 7 p.m. tonight, those teams get together on Kenmore Ave. for a superb Monsingor Martin matchup: Timon at St. Joe's. I'll be covering it for the paper, Lauren Mariacher and I will be putting together a PrepTalkTV episode, and we'll have the live blog going below.  

Tweets to the hashtag #preptalkscores will automatically show up there. So if you are a game tonight and you're updating via Twitter, be sure to include that hashtag. I'll have periodic tweets updating the game at @KeithMcSheaBN, but most of my updating will come in the live blog.

Check out tonight's full schedule on our scoreboard page, and check back throughout the night for updated box scores and highlights. It's a very light night for boys but there is still plenty of action going on.

See you out at the big game, in the chat and on the tweeter. :-)

The PrepTalkTV video on the game will be posted as soon as possible.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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PrepTalkTV (Jan. 27): St. Joe's 78, Canisius 72 on Earth-Shattering Friday

What a night at St. Joe's, what a night for St. Joe's. Check out PrepTalkTV's highlights, interviews, analysis, rundown of other huge results and a look ahead to next week: 

Our previous videos from the 2012 basketball season: Six stops, including Tim Nobles' 500th win for the Pine Valley girls (Jan. 20), a big win for Williamsville East (our debut on Jan. 17).

Our weekly football episodes from the fall are available here, while you can watch additional videos at Prep Talk Live

More sports and seasons are documented in PrepTalkTV episodes are on our video page -- click "PrepTalkTV" there for the archive.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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Prep Talk Live from St. Joe's big win over Canisius, along with great #preptalkscores updates

Last week, the PrepTalkTV team was all over Western New York.

Tonight, our focus is on one game, as it should be.

We'll have a live blog going below from the terrific 7 p.m. matchup of top-ranked large school Canisius at No. 3 St. Joe's

Tweets to the hashtag #preptalkscores will automatically show up there. So if you are out at one of tonight's many other good matchups, and you're updating that game via Twitter, be sure to include that hashtag. I'll have periodic tweets updating the game at @KeithMcSheaBN, but most of my updating will come in the live blog.

Check out tonight's full schedule on our scoreboard page, and check back throughout the night for updated box scores and highlights.

See you out at the big game, in the chat and on the tweeter. :-)

The PrepTalkTV video is here.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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Clinics for WNY football coaches kick off Feb. 6

  Monday Night Football continues for Western New York's football coaches with the offering of weekly clinics free to members of the WNY Football Coaches Association. Meeting are held at the Elks Lodge in Lancaster, 33 Legion Parkway at 7:30 p.m. Membership dues are $25 per coach or $90 for an entire staff. Cost is $10 per clinic for non-members. The first meeting is the day after the Super Bowl, Feb. 6, featuring UB football coach Jeff Quinn

   Chuck Huber has put together an impressive lineup that includes:

Feb. 6: Jeff Quinn, Head Coach University at Buffalo, "The UB Run game."

Feb. 13: Wayne Bradford, Defensive Coordinator, Edinboro University, "Stopping it all the Edinboro Way."

Feb. 27: Greg Meyer, Offensive Coordinator, Lycoming College, "Schemes to Win."

March 5: Bill Hurley, Secondary Coach, Robert Morris University, "Simple Ways to Stop the Spread."

March 12: TBA

March 19: Travis Gillespie, Offensive Coordinator, Allegheny College, "Offensive Ways to Win."

March 26: Al Piascik, Assistant Head Football Coach, Maritime College, "The Best Defense to Stop Today's Game."

April 2: Dr. Jim Chinn, Running Backs Coach, Grove City College, "Great Plays with the Jet."

April 16: at Buffalo State, 7 p.m. Coach of the Clinic, Coach Jerry Boyes, Staff and Players, "Techniques, Drills and Ways to Improve the Great Game."

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Live chat (Jan. 25): Video start (with no cough button), Canisius-St. Joe's, marveling at the logic, commentary as sharp as Ben Drake's suits

Tonight at 9, we'll get our weekly live chat started with a video segment with myself and PrepTalkTV partner Lauren Mariacher.

As always, anything in the world of high school sports -- or our coverage of it -- is up for discussion. That includes a ton this week: Tuesday's St. Mary's win, today's Archbishop Walsh-at-Canisius game (which I'll check out before the chat), Friday's Canisius at St. Joe's game, today's Prep Talk column, the basketball polls, how The News voted in them, my Power 10 and whatever else comes up.

I promise I'll get to your question or comment in the chat -- but please be patient. It can get busy fielding all of the questions and I can only answer one at a time. And PLEASE don't enter your question/comment multiple times -- that only makes things more hectic.

Here's the video (Give it a few minutes to load please):

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Our previous winter chats: Jan. 18 (2012 video debut), Jan. 11 (2012 debut/Aquinas-Kearney viewing), Dec. 14 (from the MMA-ECIC Challenge), All-WNY football talk (Dec. 7 w/video); our first was Nov. 30 (live from the Pastor-Cooper Showcase tipoff).

Our chats of the 2011 fall season: Nov. 16Nov. 9, Nov. 2Oct. 26Oct. 19Oct. 12Oct. 5Sept. 28Sept. 21 (our video chat debut), Sept. 14Sept. 7 and our preseason chat (Aug. 31), which also includes links to all of of the chats from 2010-11.

As always, if you have a question but you won't be able to make the chat, post one in the comments section here, email me, Tweet it or post it on Facebook and I'll do my best to address it.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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More on St. Mary's huge win at Bishop Timon-St. Jude (with video interviews & highlights)

St. Mary's recorded a huge win Tuesday night with a 73-71 victory at Bishop Timon-St. Jude. I updated the game via Twitter, posted the box score and details on our scoreboard and the writeup and a photo led our High School Extra in today's paper

Here's more, starting with video interviews with the victorious Lancers (classy job by St. Mary's coach Dan Gill starting his postgame comments by lauding longtime Timon coach/athletic director Jim Palano, who will be retiring at year's end):

I walked in at halftime and immediately saw that St. Mary's was ready to play in South Buffalo. Timon senior sharpshooter Kyle Kobis drained a jumper in the final seconds, but it left just enough time for Erik Simmons to speed to the other end and beat the buzzer for a tie at 33-33. 

St. Mary's shot the lights out in the second half, but it's not like they just had a good shooting night, like one of those everything-they-were-throwing-up-went-in deals. They certainly shot the ball well, but most of the baskets came off good shots created by good passing and good decisions during good possessions. Some of it came off of alert, fundamental defense and/or rebounding.

The Lancers played with a confidence, an intelligence and a togetherness on both ends of the floor that was more than impressive. That play was rewarded with a big lead, and when Timon had Kobis and Jordan Williams hit big shots to give the Tigers a chance, St. Mary's responded. 

Here's a recounting of the second half from my notebook & going over the game film (that means my iPhone video :-) ):

Third quarter

Redden hit a three-pointer (36-33). ... Ryan Winnicki hit a three off an Erik Simmons drive-and-kickout (39-37). ... Jake Denz got fouled on a three-pointer and sunk all three FTs (42-39). ... Simmons with a spectacular drive finished with an up-and-under scoop-to-the-hoop (44-39). ... Simmons again with a drive (46-39). ... Denz with a nice follow of a missed Redden drive (48-42). ... An offensive rebound by Paul Rath turned into a three by Nate Meyers (53-45). ... A Redden open three (56-47) was followed by pressure on the inbound that forced a Timon timeout with 1:25 left in the third. ... Denz with a nifty scoop vs. DeMilo Gibbs (58-49). ... Nicc Johnson with a nice-looking pop-up baseline jumper from the right side (60-51) -- that shot was the only one, to me, that was like, wow, they're hitting everything. There was some good defense and I believe the shot clock was running down, and he popped up and hit a tough jumper.

St. Mary's finished the third with a 60-53 lead after Kobis got the benefit of a goaltending call although -- from the way I saw it -- the shot never got above the rim. Kobis, Jordan Williams and Gibbs -- who played very well down low -- were effective on offense to keep Timon in the game. 

Fourth quarter

St. Mary's did a great job defending Gibbs in the post, and they did it right from the start. There was some great help defense on Timon's first possession to earn the ball back for St. Mary's. 

That was followed by two free throws by Redden after a good, aggressive drive to the basket (62-53). ... Johnson put on a fantastic drive with an off-the-glass finish (64-55). ... Denz made a great play to poke the ball free from a Timon dribbler, leading to a fast break in which Johnson's shot didn't fall but Denz was right there for the follow (66-55), prompting a Timon timeout with 5:48 to go. 

Timon made it 66-60 with a little over five minutes to go by doing what they do: Kobis hit a three; Williams drove and scored. At this point, crunch time seemed to get both sides a little tight -- no field goals for about two minutes. 

Denz made a nice play to pick off an entry pass for Gibbs, St. Mary's called a timeout with 3:15 left, and then ran a play which resulted in a Denz kickout to Simmons for a three (69-60).

This started a nice-back-and-forth (video below) that saw a Jordan Williams crossover-and-fadeaway (69-62), then a Redden jumper off a Meyers kickout (71-62), then a Zach Hayes follow of a missed Kobis drive (71-64) that prompted a Timon timoeut with 2:03 left.

Redden took advantage of some loose Timon defense to score on a drive (73-64); Kobis hit a three (73-67) to make it a two-possession game with about 1:20 to go. St. Mary's had some great ball movement against some aggressive defense that resulted in Denz finding Redden on the baseline but that was one shot that rimmed out for the Lancers. It was still a two-possession game with 1:00 left. 

Big play here. Jordan Williams got the ball on the left wing, faked out his man and drove to the basket, and Denz came off his man (Gibbs) and drew a charging foul on Williams with 37.6 to go.

Now, I am the biggest anti-flopping basketball fan in the world. I think the beautiful game of basketball is soiled by "take a charge," which I like to call flopping, because that's what it is most of the time. That being said, and this is a testament to how difficult this call is to make for officials (maybe the most difficult in sports?), at first glance I thought this was a good call.

But when I went to the iPhone video, it was a block. Williams is leaving the floor as Denz slides over. Denz makes sure he gets a shoulder in Williams' way and falls to the floor. That's defense? That's not defense, but that's what passes for defense in basketball for many people these days. The offensive player blows by his defender, has a clear lane, and he's made his move to the basket truly before the help defender has established position. 

The shot didn't fall, and it would have been two free throws, so Timon would certainly have had a better shot to win. I don't think they got robbed of the game whatsoever. St. Mary's went 0 for 2 down the stretch so Timon still had a shot to win. I definitely think St. Mary's deserved this one, big-time. And to be clear: This is not a knock on Denz by any means. He was fantastic on both ends, he did a great job fronting DeMillo in the fourth quarter, and the charge play was one of several smart ones he made during the game -- including not inbounding the ball on this final play.

Overall, a fantastic performance by St. Mary's. Timon may have underperformed a bit, but they were mostly outplayed by St. Mary's.

I'll be headed to another top 10 large school-small school matchup of the Monsignor Martin Association this evening when Canisius hosts Archbishop Walsh at 6:30 p.m.

I'll talk about that game, the St. Mary's game, Friday's Canisius at St. Joe's game, today's Prep Talk column, the basketball polls, the Power 10 and whatever else comes up during our video chat starting at 9 p.m.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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How The News voted: Canisius No. 1, St. Joe's No. 3, see you on Friday

Every week during the basketball season a panel of voters participates in The News' large and small school boys basketball polls.

And every week we let you know, like the title says ... how The News voted.

Here is a link to previous ballots: last week -- Jan. 17 (MLK edition), Jan. 10 (back from the break), Dec. 20, Dec. 13 (the tipoff).

Here are this week's polls, and here's our ballot:

LARGE SCHOOLS

1. Canisius (9-4) [last ballot: 1] -- I'm sticking with these guys, Friday night guests of the guys who beat Aquinas.  

2. Niagara Falls (9-3) [2] -- Sticking with these guys here over ...

3. St. Joe's (13-2) [6] -- ... the guys who beat Aquinas.

In other seasons, a win over one of the best programs in the state would vault a team, especially a 13-2 team, to the top. I would argue that Aquinas should be ranked No. 1 in a combined Section V/Section VI/Monsignor Martin Association poll. And in voting St. Joe's No. 3 here, I guess I would have Aquinas at the top? Canisius played Aquinas tough at home without Matt Hart. Aquinas lost at St. Joe's without starter Jarron Jones, who is certainly a great body to have in the lineup but certainly not the kind of impact player that Phil Valenti or Christian White or Jhamahl Pardner are. 

For me, it came down to my gut, based on what I've seen and gathered from this season. I would take No. 1 and No. 2 over No. 3 if they played. Which means I would take No. 1 over No. 3 no matter where they played. And would you look at this: No. 1 Canisius at No. 3 St. Joe's on Friday night. PrepTalkTV will be there (duh :-) ).

[After-the-votes-were-tallied note: I'm quite surprised that St. Joe's didn't get more than one No. 1 vote. I thought I might be on an island in considering Canisius still at the top.]

4. Jamestown (10-1) [3] -- Slide down with Joe's moving up. (at Clarence on Ridiculously Busy Friday).

5. Bishop Timon-St. Jude (11-3) [4] -- Make that two. (hosting Kearney on Ridiculously Busy Friday).

6. McKinley (8-2) [5] -- Make that three. (

7. Riverside (8-2) [7] -- Same spot for Frontiers, and with exams this week we're not expected to learn much about the city teams ...

8. Hutch-Tech (6-3) [8] -- ... including these guys. 

9. Williamsville East (11-2) [9] -- Really liked the way the Flames played without their coach, on rival's floor, against a program that had owned them the last six years or so. Liked the team play big-time. They play together on both ends, they are fundamentally sound, they have guys making unselfish plays, with 6-foot-3 Isaiah Kaudeyr making a ton of them. I wanted to vote them higher -- but they're just kind of stuck here in some sense. These three are in like a tie for seventh.

10. Kenmore West (9-2) [10] -- Blue Devils (at Niagara Falls on Ridiculously Busy Friday) still a step ahead of other contenders for this spot, a huddle that Frontier just rejoined after completing a season sweep of a Will North team I thought was on an upswing. East Aurora definitely in this crowd, Will South, Cheektowaga and maybe even Amherst too from competitive ECIC III that also includes top 10 small school Depew. Tough to figure out where the rest of ECIC I fits with Lancaster beating Clarence, along with Orchard Park beating Hamburg and then OP losing to Sweet Home in its next game. The rest of the NFL probably is in that neighborhood. 

SMALL SCHOOLS

1. Olean (11-1) [1] -- Schedule check: Dunkirk at Olean, next Tuesday, Jan. 31.

2. St. Mary's (11-5) [2] -- Fairly close ones over Nichols and Niagara Catholic and a huge blowout of St. Francis. Hmm.

3. OTC Middle College (6-3) [3] -- Host MST Seneca on Ridiculously Busy Friday.

4. Archbishop Walsh (11-3) [6] -- Chances to see these guys up north: Wednesday at Canisius, Friday at St. Francis. Scheduling note: First game with St. Mary's is home on Jan. 31.

5. Tonawanda (12-0) [5] -- A week after I wrote how impressed I was at Lackawanna, I can't say the same about the home win over Holland. Part of the reason for the Walsh promotion.

6. Depew (7-4) [7] -- I liked what I saw from Cheektowaga in close loss to I-Prep (probably No. 11 on this list) at MLK Classic; Cheektowaga just won in OT at Depew. I suppose you could argue that these Wildcats should drop further, but ECIC III is no picnic with large schools like Cheektowaga, Amherst and EA (which got a good run from Maryvale the other night).

7. Wilson (8-2) [8] -- I saw one quarter in a tiny, packed, loud CSAT gym and really liked what I saw. Diez hitting threes, Martin playing like a senior, well-run operation. Like Will East, wanted to vote them higher, but just couldn't.  

8. MST Seneca (8-1) [4] -- Drop down with loss to City Honors, which moved probably from Top 20 to Top 15 with that win. 

9. East (4-6) [9] -- Saw them against McKinley without top guard Johnathon Lewis. Team deserves to be -- just holding on -- in the top 10.

10. Silver Creek (7-1) [10] -- Hosting Portville, one of many contenders for this spot, on Ridiculously Busy Friday.

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---Keith McShea

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Keith McShea has covered high school sports at The News since his hiring in 1999. The 1995 University at Buffalo graduate and Long Island native (North Babylon Bulldogs) covers — and live blogs — everything from scrimmages to state championships & helps head The News' All-Western New York selections.

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