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Week Nine kicks off with Prep Talk Live, your #preptalkscores & Ralph-clinching wins by J'town, WSE, Alden, Springville, Cleve Hill, Randolph, Maple Grove

Seven berths to Ralph Wilson Stadium for the Section VI finals are on the line tonight.

I'll be at the fourth battle of Alden-Depew played in the last four years; all have had Alden ranked first in The News small school poll and Depew ranked second.

It is one of many rematches this weekend -- eight of the 10 semifinals are replays from this season. Check out the Football Friday preview of the pivotal Week Nine action

I will have live play-by-play updates from Alden. Lauren Mariacher and our staff of video/photographers will be at other Section VI playoff games.

We encourage you to tweet updates with the hashtag #preptalkscores attached -- that's the quickest way for us to share the information through the live chat (tweets with that hashtag will automatically show up). You can also certainly still tweet those updates to @bufnewspreptalk and @KeithMcSheaBN.

For a list of tonight's games, check out our high school scoreboard page. Also check out the standings link on the right side; we have some bugs to work out but we're excited about that (see football here).

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We'll be back with another live blog to monitor Saturday's games, including the colossal Canisius at St. Joe's matchup (check out the gameday info and Wednesday's Prep Talk column) along with the remaining Section VI semifinals).

On Sunday night at 8:30 p.m., Lauren Mariacher and I will bring you another episode of PrepTalkTV Sunday, our live wrapup show here at buffalonews.com. It will be packed with highlights, interviews, analysis and in-studio guests. PrepTalkTV Sunday will be the only live video show on Sunday as our Bills wrapup show, [BN]TheHuddle, takes the bye week off.  

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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Live chat (Oct. 25): Canisius-St. Joe's, including Joe's injury news; breaking down sectional semis like Will South-WSE & Depew-Alden

With a huge football weekend coming up -- St. Joe's-Canisius & Section VI semifinals -- it should make for a fun chat at 9:30 (we're writing a Football Friday story this evening so the chat might kick off a tad later).

As always, anything in the world of high school sports -- or our coverage of it -- is up for discussion.

I promise I'll get to your question or comment -- but please be patient. It can get busy fielding all of the questions and I can only answer one at a time. And PLEASE don't enter your question/comment multiple times -- that only makes things more hectic.

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Here are our previous chats: Week One kickoff chat on Aug. 30 (the post includes an archive of 2011-12 chats) and Sunday's post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Sept. 2).

Week Two Thursday chat (Sept. 6) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Sept. 9).

Week Three Thursday chat (Sept. 13) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Sept. 16).

Week Four Thursday chat (Sept. 20) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Sept. 23).

Week Five Thursday chat (Sept. 27) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Sept. 30).

Week Six Thursday chat (Oct. 4) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Oct. 7).

Week Seven Thursday chat (Oct. 11) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Oct. 14).

Week Eight Thursday chat (Oct. 18) and post-PrepTalkTV Sunday chat (Oct. 21).

If you have a question but you won't be able to make the chat, post one in the comments section here, email me or send it via Twitter and I'll do my best to address it.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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St. Joe's-Canisius Saturday: Tickets, webcasts & more

* Tickets are currently on sale at both Canisius (info here) and St. Joe's for Saturday's 1 p.m. game. You had best get yourself to either school to purchase tickets (unless you are a current Canisius or St. Joe's student, who get into the game with a current ID). St. Joe's athletic director Pete Schneider said Wednesday that once the paper tickets are accepted, St. Joe's may have to turn people away. He said St. Joe's facility holds about 4,500 people.

* St. Joe's, as it does every week, will have an internet radio broadcast of the game with basketball coach Mark Simon doing play-by-play and baseball coach Paul Nasca on color. If you can't make it to the game, they are a very entertaining listen. 

* Canisius has announced it will provide a live video feed via its CHS Sports Network livestream channel. The broadcast will also be archived there. The channel had a very successful debut for last year's Canisius victory over St. Joe's in basketball. 

* Of course, I will be live blogging the game, play by play, right here at your friendly neighborhood Prep Talk blog.

* The game is again part of the Great American Rivalry Series. It is one of 72 games this season to be spotlighted (as was Lancaster-Depew two weeks ago). The winning team will recieve the Great American Rivalry Series Champion trophy, presented on field by a United States Marine. The game’s Most Valuable Player is also named by media in attendance and the series awards the top student-athlete from each school a college scholarship.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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Major battles from the St. Joe's-Canisius rivalry war

Thanks to painstaking research by Canisius assistant coach/media relations wunderkind Bryce Hopkins, here is some more information on late-season games in the St. Joe's-Canisius football rivalry in which the teams' records are similar to this year's (Canisius is 8-0 and St. Joe's is 7-1).

I wrote about this year's rivalry game my weekly Prep Talk column

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1980 -- Week Seven

* Canisius entered the game 6-0. St. Joe’s was also 6-0.

* It was St. Joe’s legendary coach Tom "Tucker" Reddington’s final season, and therefore his last Canisius game.

* St. Joe’s had been a defensive wall through the season, having allowed only 11 total points (6 to Turner in Week 2 and 5 to Grand Island in Week 6). They had shut out 4 of their first 6 opponents (Niagara Falls 20-0 in Week 1, St. Francis 3-0 in Week 3, Niagara Catholic 27-0 in Week 4, and St. Mary’s of Lancaster 31-0 in Week 5).

* Canisius had also put together strong defensive performances, but was more noted for their offense (Niagara Catholic 25-6 in Week 1, McQuaid 21-6 in Week 2, Nichols 34-0 in Week 3, St. Mary’s 34-12 in Week 4, St. Francis 27-6 in Week 5, and Timon 12-9 in Week 6).

* Canisius would win the game in resounding fashion 42-8.

* Interestingly enough, Canisius would then lose the next week to O’Hara 19-16 but would finish 7-1 on the year; O’Hara went 9-0 that year.

* After starting the year undefeated, St. Joe’s would lose the Canisius game as well as its next and last two, falling to Timon 24-6 and O’Hara 28-0.

1973 –- Week Seven

* Canisius entered the game 5-0. St. Joe’s was 6-0.

* The game was Richard “Bus” Werder’s first CHS/Joes game as varsity head coach. Werder had been a longtime JV coach and assistant to the legendary Johnny Barnes. Barnes had retired after the 1972 season.

* Both teams again were offensive and defensive juggernauts. Canisius had scored 163 points leading up to the game and only allowed 42. Likewise, St. Joe’s had scored 175 points and only allowed 33.

* Canisius would win in convincing fashion 36-12.

* Canisius would win is last two games on the year to finish 8-0. The ’73 season was also part of the 42-0-1 unbeaten streak, the longest in WNY.

* St. Joe’s would win its final game of the season to finish 7-1, it’s only blemish a loss to Canisius.

1972 –- Week Six

* Canisius entered the game 4-0. St. Joe’s was 4-1.

* It would be the final Canisius/Joe’s game for Johnny Barnes.  

* Canisius had beaten Duffy 47-20, Fallon 36-12, Neumann 42-0, and O’Hara 28-22 leading up to the game.

* St. Joe’s had beaten Dougherty 40-12, Timon 12-8, and Duffy 33-0. They lost to Fallon 20-14 in Week 4, but beat Neumann 28-6 in the week before the Canisius game.

* Canisius would win a close one 8-7.

* Both Canisius and St. Joe’s would win out. Canisius would finish undefeated at 8-0. St. Joe’s would finish 6-2.

1968 – Week Eight (final game of season)

* Canisius entered the game 6-1. St. Joe’s was 7-0.

* The expectation heading into the game was that points would be at a premium for the second year in a row.

Canisius had only allowed 12 points total in the year, and they all came in their only loss, a defeat at the hands of Timon 12-0. In their other games, all wins, Canisius would outscore opponents 250-0, shutting everyone else out.

St. Joe’s had also done similarly but with a less explosive offense. They had outscored opponents 88-25, beating Timon 14-13.

* St. Joes was riding a 20-game winning streak, having finished 8-0 the previous year and also counting the five wins from the 1966 season after their last loss.

* It was the second straight year that the season for each team would end with the rivalry game.

* The game lived up to expectations as it was a tight, low-scoring affair. Canisius would win 14-6.

1967 –- Week 8

* Canisius entered the game 7-0. St. Joe’s was also 7-0.

* As was normally the case with Canisius/Joe’s games, the expectation was for a tight defensive battle.

Canisius had only allowed 12 points the whole year; St. Joe’s allowed a few more points with 43 but 18 of those came against Fallon and 13 against Timon, the only two teams to score on Canisius (6 points each).

* The game ended in a shutout, but by St. Joe’s as they won 7-0.

1963 -– Week Eight

* Canisius entered the game 7-0. St. Joe’s was 6-1.

* Both teams liked to score and not allow people to score on them. Canisius had scored 213 points and only allowed 24 points (3 games had been shutouts, the other 4 games each only had 6 points scored on the Crusaders). St. Joe’s had scored 168 points and only allowed 44.

* St. Joe’s had lost 13-0 in Week 1 to Duffy but had thoroughly beaten all other opponents after the early mistake.

* In a thriller, Canisius would edge St. Joe’s 19-18 to end the year unbeaten.

1948 –- Week 7

* Canisius entered the game 4-1. St. Joe’s was 6-0.

* This would be the first game of the rivalry series in 16 years. The series was reinstated with the creation of the Western New York Catholic League.

* Canisius’ only loss happened at the hands of Duffy by a score of 13-2. St. Joe’s, on the other hand, had not only beaten every opponent that year –- they shut them out.

* Canisius would be the first team to score on St. Joe’s as well as the first team to be them, winning 14-9.

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Thanks again to Bryce Hopkins for all of this information. You can follow him and the team on Twitter at @CanisiusHSFB.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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How The News voted: Week Eight

Every week a panel of voters participate in The News' large and small school football polls, and every week we tell you how The News voted.

The News is one of 10 voters on the large and small school polls. 

LARGE SCHOOLS

1. Canisius (8-0) [1] -- Underlined their ranking with very good win at Timon.

2. Bishop Timon-St. Jude (5-3) [2] -- They played No. 1 very tough at home. Spots 2 through 5 on my ballot are extremely tight. I still think the Tigers are certainly among that group of teams and I just didn't see quite enough reason to move them down. 

3Jamestown (7-1) [3] -- Expected rout in quarterfinals keeps them in same spot.

4. Orchard Park (7-1) [4] -- Expected rout in quarterfinals keeps them tucked behind Red Raiders.

5. Sweet Home (8-0) [5] -- Still very impressive, still a sliver behind the three teams above, mostly due to a schedule which out of the Panthers' control. Their serious rout of Williamsville East is one reason to put space between these Panthers and ... 

6. West Seneca East (8-0) [6] -- ... the Trojans, who played a competitive game with Williamsville East during the season, even if it was back in Week Two. Another reason is how WSE had to go to the final minute with its remarkable go-for-two-and-make-it, one-point victory over Starpoint. That's the same Starpoint team that was routed at home just one week earlier by Sweet Home. 

7. St. Joe's (7-1) [7] -- Outscored St. Mary's in 90-point game (56-34). With an injury to Dennis Gilbert Jr., junior Tyler Hill was back at quarterback. Joe's only threw six times -- 56 points almost exclusively on the ground. Wild.

8. Lockport (6-2) [8] -- Remarkable game against Clarence. 

9. Frontier (7-1) [9] -- Expected win at Niagara Falls keeps them here. 

10. Clarence (5-4) [NR] -- Played Jamestown tough two weeks ago, went OT with Lockport. That deserved a nod over teams like Williamsville South and Grand Island, who proved themselves a step ahead of McKinley and Iroquois, respectively.

SMALL SCHOOLS

1. Alden (8-0) [1] -- Here we go again on Friday night. 

2. Depew (7-1) [2] -- Wildcats head back to Alden. Take the self-inflicted turnovers away from the first meeting, and we could have a game Friday night, which is certainly what the Wildcats have to be saying after an impressive finishing off of Burgard in the quarters.

3. St. Mary's (5-3) [3] -- Went back and forth with Joe's for a little more than a half, which can certainly be filed in the impressive file along with its close ones with Canisius and Timon. 

4. Cheektowaga (8-0) [4] -- Different personnel, another win in what is still an undefeated season for the Warriors.

5. Maple Grove (8-0) [5] -- Red Dragons looking very, very strong.  

6. Burgard (6-2) [6] -- Bulldogs deserve to still be here after a good game with Depew, and I think they should get a look before other teams in where I see a drop off between the top tier on this ballot.

7. Springville (4-4) [NR] -- Tough win at Eden gives them an edge over the C crowd. 

8. JFK (7-1) [9] -- C North champion Bears lead the pack into the ... C North-dominated-C playoffs.

9. Cleveland Hill (6-2) [NR] -- Golden Eagles with a great win at Salamanca. Poll spot comes because it was just a one-point loser to JFK in the regular season finale. But the Eagles have another tough road game in front of it as it heads north to Wilson. 

10. Randolph (6-2) [10] -- Right now we've gone B-C-D to end the poll. Once we see who has made it to The Ralph and how they play there, that will give us a better idea (we hope!) of how to line everyone up.

Just missing out are Wilson, Fredonia, Silver Creek, Portville, Lew-Port, Eden, C South's Salamanca Allegany-Limestone, and Chautauqua Lake, not necessarily in that order.

Don't like what you're reading? The comment space is below, let us know via Twitter or facebook (addresses below), or join the live chat Thursday evening at 9.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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PrepTalkTV Sunday (Week Eight): Visit from St. Joe's-Canisius seniors, breaking down Section VI final fours

In our live weekly broadcast, Keith McShea and Lauren Mariacher interview seniors Mason Schulefand (St. Joe's) and Nick Carbone (Canisius) about their schools upcoming rivalry game, take a bracket-by-bracket look at the Section VI semifinals and recount a Buffalo Bill's visit to a local high school field:

Here are our previous episodes of PrepTalkTV Sunday, which airs live at 8:30 p.m. each week:

Week Seven (Sectional playoff preview, St. Mary's visits, rivalry rewind);

Week Six (Big wins by Jamestown, St. Joe's & Canisius; visits from West Seneca East & Bishop Timon-St. Jude);

Week Five (Alden wins battle for No. 1, St. Joe's visits after big Aquinas win, Lockport also visits before hosting St. Joe's);

Week Four (WSE's big win, late drama for Sweet Home, Burgard & Lew-Port, interviews with Depew & Alden before No. 1 vs. No. 2);

Week Three (St. Joe's, Canisius wins, Burgard's Hail Mary, interviews with Sweet Home and All-WNY alums from Buffalo State);

Week Two (OP routs Clarence, winning in West Seneca, interviews with Canisius);

Week One is not available (it featured Timon's win at Will South and interview with Ryan Dougherty, OP's win at Lockport and interview with Ben Holmes).

For all of our videos, including many more clips and highlights from each weekend, check out our video home page.

PrepTalkTV Sunday tonight at 8:30; live chat to follow

With Week Eight of high school football complete, our eighth episode of PrepTalkTV Sunday will air live tonight at 8:30 p.m. right on the home page of buffalonews.com

We'll have highlights, postgame interviews and analysis. We will again have great guests in studio. We've got a senior from each side of the St. Joe's-Canisius rivalry as the Marauders' Mason Schulefand and the Crusaders' Nick Carbone will talk about Saturday's huge upcoming game. We'll also have a fun discussion about the Section VI semifinal brackets with patron saint of high school football Dick Gallagher and Prep Talk Blog first-ballot Hall-of-Famer Tim Lindner, known in these parts as TML1000.

Afterwards, I'll have a live chat right here. It should start around 9:15 or 9:30 p.m., the exact time depends on how the live video shows go. Let us know what you thought of the show (and our Bills show [BN]TheHuddle, which starts tonight at 7:30) as well as all of the high school action, football and all fall sports.

As always, anything in the world of high school sports -- or our coverage of it -- is up for discussion.

As always, please just ask questions once. I promise I'll get to them.

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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Section VI semifinal picture is COMPLETE (now with times & dates)

Here are the semifinal showdowns for Week Nine (next week) after Friday night's action (results on scoreboard). 

If a team usually plays home games on Friday nights/Saturday afternoons, they usually do the same for the playoffs. Times will be confirmed Sunday.

Scheduling note: Next Saturday at 1 p.m. is also Canisius at St. Joe's as the rivals close out the Monsignor Martin Association regular season against each other.

CLASS AA
3S-Frontier at 1S-Jamestown, Friday 7 p.m.
2S-Orchard Park at 1N-Lockport, Saturday 2 p.m.

CLASS A
3S-Williamsville South at 1S-West Seneca East, Friday 7 p.m.
3N-Grand Island at 1N-Sweet Home, Saturday 2 p.m.

CLASS B
5-Depew at 1-Alden, Friday 7 p.m.  
6-Springville at 2-Cheektowaga, Friday 7 p.m. 

CLASS C
3N-Fredonia at 1N-JFK, Saturday 1:30 p.m.
4N-Cleveland Hill at 2N-Wilson, Friday 7 p.m.

CLASS D
5-Portville at 1-Maple Grove, Friday 7 p.m.
3-Silver Creek at 2-Randolph, Friday 7 p.m.

CLASS DD championship, Nov. 3 at Ralph Wilson Stadium
3-Clymer vs. 1-Ellicottville/West Valley, 10 a.m. (winner does not advance in state playoffs)

The championship schedule for Ralph Wilson Stadium:

Friday, Nov. 2: D 6 p.m., A 8:30 p.m.
Saturday Nov. 3: DD 10 a.m., C 1 p.m., B 4 p.m., AA 7 p.m.  

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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Week Eight Saturday kicks off with Lockport's thrilling OT win (with video), Prep Talk Live & your #preptalkscores

By the end of today, all the final fours will be set for the Section VI football playoffs.

Check out the semifinal picture here, which will be updated later today. 

I will have live play-by-play updates from the Class AA semifinal of Clarence at Lockport. Lauren Mariacher will be at St. Mary's at St. Joe's while our staff of video/photographers will be at Section VI playoff games. There are five total Section VI playoff games today, starting with the 1:30 Class C kickoff of Cassadaga Valley at JFK; there are only eight total football games being played today.

We encourage you to tweet updates with the hashtag #preptalkscores attached -- that's the quickest way for us to share the information through the live chat (tweets with that hashtag will automatically show up). You can also certainly still tweet those updates to @bufnewspreptalk and @KeithMcSheaBN.

For a list of tonight's games, check out our high school scoreboard page. Also check out the standings link on the right side; we have some bugs to work out but we're excited about that (see football here).

Here's the final play of Lockport's crazy 42-35 overtime victory (the reaction of the Lockport radio, TV and press box people is priceless):

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On Sunday night at 8:30 p.m., Lauren Mariacher and I will bring you another episode of PrepTalkTV Sunday, our live wrapup show here at buffalonews.com. It will be packed with highlights, interviews, analysis and in-studio guests. PrepTalkTV Sunday follows the 7:30 p.m. broadcast of our Bills wrapup show, [BN]TheHuddle; Lauren and I will be part of that as well.  

---Keith McShea

(@KeithMcSheaBN on Twitter)

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PrepTalkTV: Canisius 26, Bishop Timon-St. Jude 14

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Keith McShea

Keith McShea has covered high school sports at The News since his hiring in 1999. The 1995 University at Buffalo graduate and Long Island native (North Babylon Bulldogs) covers — and live blogs — everything from scrimmages to state championships & helps head The News' All-Western New York selections.

@KeithMcSheaBN | kmcshea@buffnews.com

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